Look at Rackham from 10 years ago. The cost of your model is not only resin, but a sum of the voice, buy from a recaster and you are a thief like the recaster itself. Reap what you sow. Greg Smith, omg, really ? How can anyone claim the second company is not greedy, and yes the second company gets targeted by pirates and the first doesn’t. And that’s what will happen if recasts become a thing. You guys do a great job on this site/blog. uk / FW-New-Limited-Stock-Selling-Fast Apparently the production area at Forgeworld is still too small to meet demand whilst social distancing, even though they culled a good chunk of their catalogue a few weeks back. The models they had to sculpt digitally and then cast in a way they would both fit in the box, and be easy to mass produce. The elitism of GW is a prime example; They go so far as not allowing official models in their store tourneys, even when a reasonable counts-as. Totally agree with you, it’s morons like them who are putting a nail in the coffin of our hobby, I bought a recast by mistake off eBay, I thought I was buying a genuine Pegaso figure, when it arrived I knew instantly of the mistake I’d made, everything that is bad in a casting was plain to see, the main thing being it should have been cast in white metal and was instead a poor resin cast instead, thankfully eBay took action and swiftly booted this pirate off. You stole the right to use that miniature in your games, to paint it and to present it to your friends IRL or on social media. As Alchemy said, they drive more new hobbyists away by doing it in this and inevitably lose out of profit in the long run. And what about the companies (from small to big) that produce miniatures based on comics/movies/books/games/characters/… without paying for a license? GW’s greed and extortionate prices. Just saying, this argument is fail. The difficult thing is to develop a miniature from scratch, starting with an idea that begins with just a few pencil strokes on paper. IN FACT THE ON-LINE STORE IS NO LONGER CARRYING RECAST FW ITEMS. Cant have it both ways, either strict on piracy or not. Just out of curiosity, what about recasts of long out of print miniatures, or miniatures from defunct companies? then those models end up being resold to people on ebay and those are usally ones you see in bulk packages on ebay with out the boxes and sheets. Enter your email to get the very latest - news, promotions, hobby tips and more from Games Workshop. @Greg. (5458) Assorted Bits Forgeworld Space Marines Horus Heresy 40k 30k Warhammer. The first company produces models that are far better sculpts and casts than the second. Do they, as a British company, utilize only products designed, produced, and bought within British home-island territory? Just as with Lietpold, the amount of resin and burrs it has is endless, making it especially difficult to find out what belongs to the model and what is left over. Those are the nice guys who brought us age of sigmar, which made great armys obsolete and huge investmenst of time and money into them void. I look forward to you trying that defence in court. Unconditionally passionate about our hobby, Norberto Álvarez has been in love with figures and static modeling since he was 11 years old. But, from my experience, smaller manufactures like Andrea, and Pegaso, and Scibor, and Blacksmith, etc. Things like Kodi make it seem harmless – oh you clicked a few buttons and bingo it is there without any effort, so it must be harmless. Im now buying models that Id never buy because they are crazy expensive, for example forgeworld knights. Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Recasts are smaller than the base model, you can do a size comparison to see if it's a recast. We pay so that the company we like so much is able to surprise us again in the future with yet another piece to continue enjoying our hobby. When GW sells the same models in Australia for 60-90% more than the US for no good reason it is hard to feel sorry for them. That does not mean I only buy from a recast seller , but expensive and big models worth of the discount . Obviously, as you will see now, the original copy has very good quality in every detail. Even so, I think this issue began with Chinese copies of Forgeworld references. Soon they will be 3D scanning and 3D printing and mass producing making more profit. Cheers. Now im buying tons of big recasted models. DVD prices haven’t gone down. All I know is that they sell recast miniatures, just ordered a week ago a few items, the package hopefully will give me their address or at least the country of origin. Recasting can come out of any country, I can think of at least seven countries from which recasters regularly produce illegal copies. Tripling the quarterly profits isn’t exactly telling me that they are covering costs and slowly expanding. … GW has serious plastic and great details, FW does not. @Greg smith : Everyone before me has already said what is correct. Prices go up. The cheap cost of resin you mention would only be associated with recasters. How many of us would not be hobbyists if it wasn’t for our local GW? Not because GW has a better product, but because GW will sue the crap out of anyone who makes a model that looks similar to a GW model. This would be paradoxal. As expected, the pieces to assemble are the same as the original. (and here I come back the argument) it’s the small independent places that can no longer get the movies into big cinema chains because they won’t bring in the numbers to cover the costs. The people who are buying the recasts are ruining the hobby for the simple reason they are are robbing the people who bring these sculptures to life for us, without out these creative people this hobby won’t survive, so are slowly killing it, why would companies carry on if someone is going to rip them off, a lot of these companies are small industries they can not take the financial hit, they are entitled to make an honest living by buying off the pirates, you are steeling money from the people you admire, else why would you be buying the figure in the first place, no doubt the scum who buy these are the same who don’t pay for their music and probably have a stash of rip off DVDs too, stop being cheap skates support the talent or loose it. For the sake of this report, we have acquired a couple of Chinese illegal recasts as well as their respective originals, and we are going to show you in detail why there is no point at all in buying these pieces of bad plastic. or have you forgotten about the atrocious quality that was Citadel Finecast, here despite the shit quality we still saw an increase in price. Game workshops prophit have been that big that instead of making their models cheaper for their customers they gave their staff a 2 thousand pounds bonus ( tax purposes) so boo hoo if the greedy fuckers are losing in the grand scale of things pocket change. Recast companies will be making more profit than the small indies as they don’t have any other costs. It’s nice to see such “mature” topics being treated with depth. For the good health of our hobby. Imo it tells me that they severely overprice their products for maximum GP. Illegal sellers proliferate on second-hand portals, ebay, e-mail contacts and even mobile aplications for peer to peer trading. If I had to choose between paying my electricity bill or having a dread saurian , its crystal clear. By subscribing you confirm that you are over the age of 13 or have consent from your parent or guardian to subscribe. I dont agree with that it is stealing, its models I would never buy anyway. Take these smaller companies making stunning models for half the price or even less, how is that possible? In addition to this, the flat parts are not flat by any (ANY) means. Do they make, from BEGINNING to END, an entirely domestic, clean, and non-toxic product? The above is, again, scare-mongering. Judge yourselves. WE JUST GOT A NOTE FROM THEM THAT NOW "THEY AGREED" NOT TO SELL RECAST ANYMORE. GW seldom does. You have not idea about, a totally ignorant. I suspect them beeing from Russia. These are well known stores selling recast of some major brands. Exactly so. I thought he was describing forge world quality there for a second. Finecast is so good, I really don’t understand recast buyers ! I have no problem doing a massive company like GW out of 40 quid. Just saying individuals like that who do that have no moral compass. As a former game store employee I will say this: the amount of players that get discouraged from even trying to enter the hobby because of GW’s prices makes me sad (it is a lot). Also several Rackham miniatures. What’s the actual law being broken when trading for a recast model? Great article, it is a fair fight and I am seriously pleased to see this being taken seriously, even in the comments section. Age of Sigmar is more popular than WFB was. This also amounts to stealing somebody else’s work. The quality is just as good as forgeworld, sometimes you need to add a little greenstuff though but the same goes with forgeworld models. 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